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to decriminalize illegal border crossings to now saying she stands with border patrol and wants to make sure we secure the border. she went from villainizing the trump tax cuts now, doubling down on the track i'll tax credit and following trump on the no tax on tips, i get that these are very popular proposals, but it's a little funny to see what was the most progressive united states senator. now all of a sudden sounding much more like a republican, she uses words like capitalism. now, things you don't usually go the good old general really you at all general these are bright i'm going to use my hot take time to drop

>> kamala harris go to the border and talks tough on immigration. and donald trump, will voters buy it? plus the middle east on a knife's edge tonight, new fears of a ground invasion in lebanon. as israel targets the leader of hezbollah did they take them out? and as you ron about to step in and a natural disaster unfolding in real time as helene drowns parts of the southeast, the destruction and the stories of survival tonight on laura coates live

republicans have been shouting about for years, a congress visit to the border, the place donald trump sees as his strength and key to his chances in november. so tonight, harris went there. it was our first-time with the u.s.-mexico border since june of 20 any 21 and laws are first-time as the democratic nominee for president permission bridge the gap between how voters see her and trump on immigration her message a promise to up the ante on border security i will take further action to keep the border closed between ports of entry. those who cross our border unlawfully will be apprehended and removed and barred from re-entering for five years. we will pursue morris criminal charges against repeat violators. and if someone does not make an asylum

request at a legal point of entry, and instead crosses our border unlawfully they will be barred from receiving asylum she didn't just try to steal trump's thunder by sounding tough on the border she also went after him directly he separated toddlers out of their mother's arms put children in cages and tried to end protections for dreamers he made the challenges at the border worse. >> and he is still and he is still fanning flames of fear and division she also called map for tanking the bipartisan border deal earlier this year. now, harrison have much time to change voters mind on one of her major vulnerabilities. we're just 39 days out from election. and by

the way, if you're in a state that has early voting, it's like t minus something for you but the polls do show her slowly lee eroding the gap on immigration he shoots repeatedly dog democrats under the biden-harris administration and situation at the border has been chaotic over those four years, but crossings have fallen since biden to executive negative action this very summer there now at their lowest point since 2020 funny now, trump for his part, is not say get any of this quietly. he is suggesting that harris could pressure biden to do more. he says they could have taken executive action years ago and asked for that border deal do you want to save him? she could salvage make up some lies like she said, about the border bill that trump stopped. let me tell you. number one, i didn't stop it. the senator stopped at he calls it a lie. >> but then there's this from when it all went south a lot of

the senators are trying to say respectfully, they're blaming it in me. >> i said that's okay. please blame it on me. please. because they were getting ready to pass a very bad bill. >> he did blame it still are joining me now, democratic strategist meghan hays, republicans tragedies. liam donovan, and the host of the clay cane show on sirius xm. clay cane, glad to have all of you here this evening on this friday night, liam lady, begin with you if i can, because harris is sounding a lot tougher on illegal immigration trying. she's trying to flip the script on immigration terms of polling and how she is viewed will voters buy that was the recognition of the weaknesses that she does have. >> she is the two areas that trump has an edge on immigration and economy you've seen the 82 page economic plans i'm out on they've been trying to press that. this is trying to do the other side, which is the immigration piece. it's interesting to see that split screen of trump in the rust belt where harris is ahead and

harris down in arizona where trump is ahead. these are these are on each other's turf. i think immigration is obviously going to be an issue that trump needs to push the advantage on. harris is not going to win on that, but she can neutralize it he's on the cusp of doing just that. so i think going there sounding tough, that's trying to achieve the mission and oh, she's, she's off to a good start. >> while meghan lee bring you in here because we've now seen harris try and go on offense on the economy. meghan on immigration, all while hitting trump on reproductive rights and abortion, is that going to be there? of core strategy for this final wet 39 days look, i think that there e to these candidates are going to try to do whatever they can to just peel voters off from whatever topic they can. >> i think that's why she's down at the border and giving a speech today she's not going to hit people who this is their number one issue. she's not going to ever convince those people that she's going to be tougher on the border than trump. but she can convince there are folks that this is they're soft on this issue, so she's she did an excellent job of doing that today. she had some really good salient point. she's drawing the contrast between her and trump's leadership style as well. and

she's going to also hit on the issues that democrats are extremely popular on abortion and women's reproductive rights. and she's also closing the gap on the economy. so here it is each of them are easter just trying to peel voters away as we're getting closer and closer to november and closer we are 39 days and play kaylee, bring you in here. >> my sirius xm buddy. how you doing like trump cannot seem to figure out what stands he wants to have on this bipartisan senate border bill. did he stop it? did he not should be blamed? should they not? i mean, he saying it was the senators who did it is he feeling a little bit of the heat from harris attacks? >> always certainly is. and here's what i like about vice president kamala harris going to the border. it's all about the contrast, right? we have vice president kamala harris at the border talking about the american people, talking about policies and plans tends and we have donald trump this week and contrasts trying to sell watches for $100,000. so i think what we see is somebody who has presidential and

somebody who was a grifter somebody who obviously doesn't care about the border, doesn't care about immigrants who are here legally are quote unquote, illegally, unless he believes are eating cats and dogs he only cares about himself. that is the stark contrast that i saw with vice president kamala harris's speech. >> while trump was at a town hall tonight in michigan, limb, and he was promoting to clays point a better off with trump message to voters. listen to this your energy bills will be five or 50% lower one year from january 20 they talk about what's at the checkout counter, the groceries, and we're going to get it all down. >> i consider it one of the most beautiful things i've ever seen. the word tariff. i love it. i think i mean, economists are finding someone who's proposals a little bit head-scratching. i mean, i'm not going to judge when you find beautiful, he thinks the word tariffs is beautiful. i have different criteria for beauty, but that's just me, liam will they win him any

votes though that he already doesn't have? >> well, i think if you think back to how he won michigan in the first place, which is cracking through that blue wall there in 2016. that was a big big part of that pitch, was him talking differently than standard republicans on issues like trade if he wants to reprise it again, he needs to talk to those same oddities has using those same themes. i think the interesting thing there is that having robert f. kennedy there before him speaking, actually saying, don't vote for me. remember michigan is keeping rfk on the ballot. and so a lot of this is going to come down to really small margins there. and trying to maximize his vote there and getting up to as high as he can with those meshes, with those themes but i think rfk reinforces that, but it's an interesting time. he needs to pick up one more state. i think that the sunbelt states he has he needs to crack into pennsylvania, michigan, or wisconsin. and i think michigan's one of the ones that looks the best i mean, imagine that clay, someone saying, don't vote for me. i mean, i know i'm no vote with

a new strategy on thank you. obviously know the reasons why he's may be trying to get the administration, but let's just go to that point about different state. let's go north carolina for a second, clay because there's some breaking news tonight that we are learning that north carolina lieutenant governor mark robinson, who is running for governor he has been hospitalized tonight after an incident at a campaign event. no further details as of now, but this is another twist in an already tumultuous race how critical do you think robinson's struggling campaign clay will be in the presidential is when you wrote about him in your new york times bestseller book. >> well, thoughts and prayers to mark robinson i will say that mark robinson, i rang the alarm about him in my book he is another grifter. he is a liar. he is shameful. and what's really sad, what's really sad, laura, is that they knew exactly who he was even before the disgusting things that came out recently, they all knew who he was and you

know, trump said that he was dr. king on steroids when really mark robinson is herschel walker on steroids. but they didn't care. this is the kind of person that he ella they elevated a former factory worker who had no political experience but went viral for insulting black panther and michelle obama. so he's bringing the ticket down and i want to say to all my friends out there who are black republicans are black conservatives this is what they think of you. they would rather have the likes of mark robinson in their party than the likes of colon pow. this is what they think he is dragging down the ticket. and i'm going to say this all on the air with you. i predict a north carolina win for vice president kamala harris. the way president obama won and 2008. thank you. mark robinson well, unsurprisingly, meghan, you are nodding and there's a bit of a smile that i see trashing across your face on that prospect. >> i mean, there's a new cnn poll that is showing harris and trump actually tied neither is really leading is a type 48%. obama did win the state in 2008

to clays point, but it's gone red in the past three presidential elections. and so could this be harris is most competitive, sun belt state? >> she absolutely it's an striking distance of winning in north carolina, and i think that they've got the governor's race is not helpful to republicans. and just it's more beneficial for the vice president to have an opportunity to play here. also, they have an incredible war chest of money that they are able to spend in north carolina and incredible organizing operation and the campaign that they are able to knock on doors but not on in north carolina in a way that other campaigns, they don't have the funds to do that. cannot compete. so, you know, it is within striking distance and i wouldn't be surprised if you saw if you saw the vice president when north carolina this time around well, i'm still really curious as to what has happened with mark robinson. we don't have any information as to what this incident is and why he's been hospitalized. and so i'll be eager to learn more information and bring that to each of you when we know. thank you all for joining thank you

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group that has bled denies and in stores weapons in these buildings in some of these buildings are actually in residential neighborhoods, leaving a sea of people displaced, looking for somewhere safe to go. cnn drove through the city and saw people laying on benches and on the ground. women cradling, sleeping babies and toddlers and children, wandering through the streets. the israeli military has been providing warnings an hour and a half before their strikes. but these people still have nowhere to go one of the people telling afp they were only given 30 minutes to evacuate before the explosions israeli official telling cnn, hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah was the target of the strike. and right now his fate is still unknown i want to get right to cnn political and national security analyst david sanger and cnn military analyst, colonel cedric leighton. thank you both for being here as we're trying to unpack all that it's

happening in real time. david, hezbollah is backed by iran as is hamas. and this is right now a two front war that we're all watching unfold how fragile is this but certainly in the middle east right now well, it's fragile it's escalating. and of course these attacks, laura came just a few hours after the speech that prime minister benjamin netanyahu gave at the un, he then immediately returned to israel. and during that, he dwelled on iran at length, and warned iran. but also made it clear that he was rejecting the international calls led by the united states, britain, france, the other g7 members other nations to do this, a 21 day ceasefire so his response to that, which has been led by his largest ally, the united states, which has provided most of the weapons was to basically

say, we're going to keep bombing and firing along the way here and they were clearly aiming at decapitating the leadership. we just don't know whether they got hassan nasrallah, who has been the leader as pull out for since 1982 i mean, david worst looking at the screen right now, we're seeing it's about six sweat in the morning in lebanon, you're seeing a big cloud of smoke over the area in beirut and israel is saying that a lot of the strength of hezbollah actually comes from their leader hassan nasrallah. >> that we still don't know if he is safe or not, but what does it mean for israel to be going after this person well, it's quite a remarkable thing that they are going right for the leader because you can imagine what the response is going to be. >> it was just a few days ago that we saw the first attacks on directly on tel aviv the

hezbollah has a of weapons that can reach tel aviv, but the fear here obviously is that if they are successful in getting those rod that the next thing would be a counter strike against major israeli cities we've already seen the pager attack. >> then there was the walkie-talkie explosions. those were directed at hezbollah leadership. i do wonder how much capability does the organization still have given there was already intention by them to disengage from the communications she's apparatus as they used to use because of the fear of the explosions. and now you've got their leader being targeted in this fashion is there a great deal of capability still? >> we're still trying to figure that out. the israelis maintained that they have wiped out about half of the missiles that they believe were stored by this terrorist group by

hezbollah around beirut it surroundings i don't know how you measure that. and of course it's not simply a question of what they have destroyed, but whether they've gotten the most capable weapons colonel leighton. >> i want to bring you into this discussion because these strikes in beirut, i mean, that's a massive population centers about 2 million residents i mean, isn't even conceivable that you could avoid civilian casualties in a situation like this? >> no, it's not laura and that's one of the things that's really critical to understand about this. the types of weapons that the israelis are using are weapons that would normally be used on the battlefield. that's what they were designed for in this particular situation, you are using them for the israelis are using them in urban area, in an urban setting. and when you use thousand pound bombs, which is probably what was used in this

case, that creates a lot of destruction as we can see right here. and it also creates a great risk of civilian casualties. we've seen how they've done this in gaza. it will seeing what they're doing in beirut root i in this particular instance. and it really shows not only the power of these weapons, but it also shows the risk to the civilian population bible is ordering the pentagon to assess their force posture. >> they're calling it is asking msas to take protective measures is there a chance? american's getting swept up into this conflict as this continues to seemingly grow well, let on his head a history of sweeping us into conflicts all the way back to the 1950s. >> and it's something that we have to be very careful of. many of us remember what happened to the marines in the early 1980s? hezbollah was behind that particular attack as though it is very possible that we could get involved in this. and i think the

administration is trying very hard to keep us out of something like that. >> david sanger, colonel cedric leighton, both. thank you so much thank you. you bet we've got an update to the breaking news. >> we told you at the top of the hour, we've now learned that north carolina lieutenant governor mark robinson is at a hospital being treated for burns burns. there was an incident and rally earlier today, according to his campaign, his spokesperson did not elaborate, but does say that robinson is in good spirits while haleine tearing a path of destruction across the southeast, plunging some areas and several feet of water ahead the dramatic pictures and the stunning warning from officials north carolina tonight. and later at some much needed levity. >> how does this florida man make it out? >> and how has he made out after riding out last night? storm my map, purple kayak, we'll get an update from him next

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>> sometimes great challenge is right under your nose what's your name again 8:00 on tnt hurricane helene now stands at 45 people across five states. the monster storm hitting florida as a category four hurricane hurricane in just 24 hours later, is now a tropical depression. after hitting florida, the storm brought devastating effects as it moved north. tennessee weather than 50 people trapped on the roof of a hospital after rapidly rising waters made evacuations impossible. some were trapped for hours. the hospital ceo

telling cnn tonight that everyone was eventually rescued and atlanta double digit rainfall totals, they brought severe flooding, putting entire communities completely underwater, leaving water rescues as the only way to get folks it's out of their homes in areas near and around asheville, north carolina. the flooding is so bad that entire neighborhoods were washed away. here you see a roof floating in the water. the flooding. it is simply catastrophic. a row of apartments were the first story was nearly entirely submerged and tonight, the state's department of transportation warning everyone that all roads in the western part of the state should be considered closed. that's how bad it is right now nasa southeast faces helene's rack tonight moody's estimates the property damage will be north north of 20

billion we look at the destruction people faced in the steinhatchee, florida area today from devastating floodwaters and in tampa, the water last night inundated the home of this man, matt heller. i spoke to him live at the height of the storm and that was documenting the flooding in the tampa house while paddling around on a kayak it was my escape plan in case stuff got to harry, we think we have we have two kayaks. >> i didn't think i was going to need it in my living room like i was floating around. the water is not going to receive until about 1:30 p.m. tomorrow i'm sure it's still going i don't i don't know. >> i've never dealt with such a cleanup like this can't say i'm looking forward to it. but again, we have our health positivity and humor in the face of a rough situation. >> i mean, it strikes such a chord with so many of you, a viewer even tweeted to ask,

laura, could you do a follow up tomorrow night with purple kayak? matt heller? i sure can because matt joins me once again. matt. thank you for being here last time we spoke. your living room was flooded. tell me about what the morning brought. has the water receded? >> hey, good evening, laura. yeah. i was actually luckily, i was wrong. and the water flew out of here real quick. i eventually called it a night at around 4:00 a.m. when the power went out and the power kick back down about 5:00 a.m. and i ran downstairs real quick because i wasn't able to film stuff with no light and i was worried about concerns during my battery and all the water had rushed out within 45 minutes. easy, come, easy. go. i suppose you could say that's great news there, right. but look at what it left behind, went the water moved away you've got quite a cleanup right now. how about the hippel? your neighborhood is everyone even okay it's a mess.

>> my home is one of the lowest ones because it's one of the older homes. so it definitely had the most damage. but everyone's been struggling with it. i had some sea creatures. i had an eel, i found in my garage as well as a bunch of little fish and such. i tried to get everything back into the water but yeah it didn't work out so well for them. it's just super tragic what i've seen with these other casualties and the property damage. so i'm just really happy we got by unscathed for the most part, or it's just some financial stuff. but like i said, last night, still have our health, so that's great. >> yes, that's amazing in spirit, but i understand that you also did i read you got electrocuted last night. >> what happened? >> yeah yeah. >> while he was on tiktok, i had these little security cameras around the home and have a status late on him and i saw that the light was off in the plug was actually under the water while i was on the tiktok live, i went to just go unplug it so i can pull the memory card out of the camera to get

the video and i got a little bit of a shocking surprise there. the outlet was still energized so super, super, super scary stuff because again i'm down there in the kayak thinking that oh, the breaker worked or the gfr tripped and all the safety mechanisms work, but it was still on so yeah, i got a little bit of a zap super super scary stuff for a second there i thought you're telling me the email did it and i was going to say, okay, i know if i feel better about it being an eel or not an email or this or what it is. and we also talked about, of course, you were talking about your business. you're really concerned as many people in the area are. it's not just their homes, but also their livelihoods. >> any updates? sure. >> yeah. my company horn blasters had a ton of water in the warehouse is well, we had a couple little roof leaks. i went to work today at 9:00 a.m. cleaned up from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. went to work at nine and it's just been an uphill

battle. >> but again, we didn't have any damage much product or anything. >> most of my employees, everyone pretty much came to work today. >> so that was good and it's business as usual that's unbelievable to me thinking about what you haven't in front of you where's the kayak though? i see that didn't get washed away. he did it no thanks to thank goodness. i still have it downstairs and yeah, it was my cherry for the night you mentioned to me last night, beings self-insured and thinking about the cleanup, everything else how expensive is this going to be i don't know. this is actually the third time that the house has flooded. never. this aggressively i mean, i just wish next time i remodel it, hopefully it will be the last time i want to use some stuff that i won't need to replace the event that this happens again because i'm definitely see the trend here and it's just wearing me out with all of these repairs and work. i just want a nice, normal home i

think you want to leave florida no. >> no, i would never i got my family here and my business. so i mean, don't get me wrong if it gets really warmed up near sometimes these storms aren't the most fund thing to deal with, but i'm still just still just a florida man through and through. >> well, you got such a positive ad to everyone's looking forward to seeing the full recovery for you, your community, and everyone around you. so thank you so much for giving us an update and please stay safe still. okay. >> yes, ma'am. >> thank you so much, laura matt. >> hello, everyone well let's go north then. i mean, way up north right now, all the way to new york city, because mayor eric adams is declaring in a court of law, i am not guilty. adams defined as pressure is growing on him to step down after his indictment on bribery charges can you survive this? >> can the city? well, the man who would become mayor if adams leaves, joins me next

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atoms who have now been searched which by investigators now for his part, adams denies any wrongdoing and he is vowing to keep his job. only a handful of prominent democrats have even called on him to run but a source tells cnn, new york governor kathy hochul is considering the possibility of removing adams from office. she can do that by the way, under state law. now, publicly of chlorus, all she said that she hopes adams will find quote, an appropriate path forward not really. >> the ring door shrimp for that adams wants to hear. but the question is, if adam resigns or is even pushed out, then what what who will become the mayor of new york? oh the job would fall to my next guest, new york city public advocate, jumaane williams. jomana. thank you so much for being with us. what a turn of events this past few days. you might, the mayor says that he's not going anywhere. would you support governor hochul using her powers under state

law to remove him from office? >> well, peace in blast and loved, like to you. thanks for having me. i think first and foremost, it's important to say this is a sad moment for hoax in new york city. this is not an easy thing. it's been a painful time period. and i just have to say that we are clear that the right to defend yourself. and the presumption of innocence before someone says you're guilty is really paramount in our system and that doesn't change regardless of who charged. that's a separate conversation, then under the weight of what's happening, does the mayor have the ability to continue to govern effectively? and two to make sure that the trust is being eroded is restored, and that's questions that i think the mayor has to ask himself and really have a soul searching about whether you can do that and he can he should present a plan on how that's going to happen. and if you do it really quick do you think he

can actually govern effectively with the wait and one of the indictment but also the people who have left the administration what from my vantage point, it's really difficult to see what that plan looks like. but again, he the federal government has the duty to, to prove his case. i think what he has a duty to provide that plan. so that's what we're asking. if this is the direction we're gonna go how are you going to do that? and those are legitimate? the questions. and my public advocate, it's really pushed for to make sure that the people of the city no that there is a plan for every eventuality, and that city government is going to continue and we shot out the hundreds of thousands of public sector workers will make sure that happens even in a time of confusion you know, people are already thinking in spite of the presumption of innocence, in spite of how you've articulated this just now, what the possibility could be if he were no longer to be the office

as mayor for the duration of his term. >> and i tried a special election would have to be held within 90 days and any number of people could run including former governor andrew cuomo. how do you keep it from becoming chaotic when the floodgates are undoubtedly going to open well, you know, i think the former governor was talking about running even possibly if it was a primary depending on the circumstances. i think that's a particular concern and that's probably discussion for a different day. but again, i think most people want to know is a garbage going to be picked up is 31, which is a service the city and 911 gonna be answered if people call it and thankfully, the constitution of the city provides for contingency plans. that are going to make sure that happens thanks to the 100,000 public sector workers and my colleagues in government. and that's what we want to make sure whatever the adventure eventuality happens, there's a plan to make sure government i'm going to services and continued. and

that's really what i'm focused on there's a government services and then there's the integrity of the office, which is obviously very important to voters. >> and those who would like to ensure that whoever is holding that position knowing that the position of public trust, they can actually trust that person as well. and you know, there are people who are are going to raise their hand. perhaps you will as well as being in the line of succession. cuomo, for example, he resigned after report from the ag accused him of sexual harassment of i think 11 women would that ensured that disqualify him from even entering into the fray? >> well, i think there are legal barriers of what people can do to enter the fray, as you say, that's not necessarily one of them. i have concerns of who the governor was when he was governor. i don't have the same concerns for him running for mayor and i'll express that if that time comes you know, being in the line of succession i'm, always making sure i'm very responsible with my words and how we speak, particularly in this time. there's a lot of confusion and

you almost chaos for people who are in the city, particularly our workers and want to make sure that they know that there is, there will be a steady plan moving forward and this is why we have to push the mayor to answer the questions if he believes he can be that steady hand with the weight of everything that's going on. and really only he can answer that, but we need him to not only answered, but to present a plan as quickly as possible. i think the window to do that is rapidly closing if adams resigns or is forced out, you would become the mayor the rules allow you to run for the office. and would you consider doing that there's so many steps in between here and there. >> and thankfully when you take this job, you know that this is a possibility. it's not somebody who actually planning for and that's something that you want because if it happens, i mean, something went wrong and we want things to go right. so right now we're really focused again on making sure

that there is some kind of calm and steady hand for the people of the city does that mean you're ruling out if you in fact do get the position that you would not run but it's not for me, it's not really a ruling out, a ruling in right now. >> there's so many steps between where we are right now and that being one of the eventualities. and it's only one of them that it's really best to make sure you're prepared for all of the eventualities. because in all of the eventualities, you just want to make sure that you're prepared for them. and as public advocate in the line of succession, we're prepared for that as well has a governor contact as you at all about that prospect i haven't spoken to the governor since the indictment's been unsealed. >> we'll see what happens as you say, there's a lot of steps in between. everyone's eager to see what happens next, including how the government intend to try to make their case given the presumption of innocence, jiminy williams. thank you so much. >> thanks so much for having me and i'm one of those is concerned as well

well, caitlin clark season is officially over, but the controversy around her just won't quit tonight. her message on the racism festering in the league fan base. she says, as her top rival, angel reese says she's had enough of being labeled the pillen. the question tonight. >> where is it wnba go from here? carrie champion joins me next >> is over. tim walz and j.d. vance in their first and only face-to-face debate. and cnn has covered with the best political team in the business a cnn special events, the vice presidential debate. tuesday at nine on cnn when it comes to amgen, life changing medical breakthroughs, every second counts but without investment, those breakthroughs are often past cities seamlessly connected banking, markets and services, businesses deliver

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187786 7866 at 5:55 i'll rafael romo at the georgia state capitol in atlanta. this is cnnn closed captioning is brought to you by my q and all in one home access and monitoring system mikey was the only smart home security solution that provides video monitoring real-time notifications. and let you decide who comes in and who stays out. >> tonight. the historic rookie season of caitlin clark gets a celebratory capstone. according to the athletic, she'll be named rookie of the year by the

wnba. she led the indiana fever to their first playoff appearance and nearly a decade average nearly 20 points per game helped fuel a record breaking year for the wnba and angel reese and her star power also contributed to a banner year for the league. and the clark real rivalry. well, if you will ratings if she'll debates and fueled controversies all throughout the season at times, the conversation turned ugly and reese alluded to it in a post on x writing last night for the past two years, the media has benefited from my pain and knee being villainized to create a narrative and you know what sounds like clark has had enough to condemning hateful comments, hurled at other players it's definitely upsetting. i don't think there's nobody in our league should be facing any sort of racism hurtful, disrespectful hateful comments and threats

those aren't fans, those are trolls and it's a real disservice to the people in our league, the organization, the wnba with me now cnn contributor kari champion, who is out with a new podcast, the making of a rivalry. >> caitlin clark versus angel race carries so good to see you. i don't know how you'd find the time to do all that you do, but i'm so glad you're doing with this new ban gas. you and i have talked about this a great deal. and at the start of the season reis, welcome the role of the quote, bad guy, but hope that people would see the league is more than one person because it is what do you make about her change of tune now that the season has ended? >> you know i think that she had no choice. i talked about this in the dock would you mentioned i she had no choice. she was always going to be the villain because of the optics. caitlin clark was immediately america's darling because of what she looked like where she came from. she was a great player. i'm taking nothing

away from her but what angel reese did was just be herself unapologetically and for so many people, it was really able to see it and so i think now she is fed up with being a villain because she knows that she's not. and that people are putting that on her. so instead of accepting that role now, she's taking her power back in a very, very unique way. in which i applaud. but the best thing about these two ladies and i'll say this, laura, they really do enjoy one another. there's no there's no animosity towards them. when i say rivalry in the podcast, it's a good thing the sport needs inertia. it needs the attention, it needs the back-and-forth that's what propelled women's basketball and gave so many people the idea to pay attention because there was a story line. but now these ladies are finding their voice. and when they really get comfortable, that's when things are going to get interesting. >> it's true america loves a cinderella story, an underdog story they love at all. they love a rivalry, but we'd love most of all is saying the talent across the lee. i mean,

people who had not been tuning in before they may have been surprised or those who've been watching all along, it has been wonderful to be able to see and watch everyone we came into their own in this league. we heard caitlin clark, though denouncing some of what was said. the race has comments by who she calls trolls instead of fans but her response has also shifted from the start of the season, which he said, quote, i can't control that what do you think is behind her evolution i do believe that especially with i've been able to talk to some of her coaches, her high school coach, her her her her college coach, and some of her friends and former teammates she grew up in iowa. >> they didn't have these issues. caitlin clark's number one priority has always been to play basketball. she is baller, a very fierce competitor. this was never an issue for her and so when you ask someone who is and let me just remind everyone, let's level set. these ladies are 21 and 22-years-old, 22-years-old. and you're still trying to find

their way in terms of what they do in the wnba, they weren't necessarily kaitlan more specifically, wasn't ready to talk about race because it wasn't, wasn't in her realm of knowledge. it wasn't something she had to deal with. it wasn't necessarily fair for asked her to talk about that in a way that she could sound coherent and knowledgeable and comfortable, but she's getting there now. she's around her teammates. she's seen some things in the leagues. she's it's heard these fans be inappropriate and they've tried to co-opt her narrative, put their problems, their issues, their philosophies on her, and that's why they dug in and they went into that caitlin clark fan base, but she's like, hold on. i don't approve of you being a troll. you can like basketball, you can like me, but i will not approve of you being erased we have no room for that and find out the wnba is saying something and joining him for so long. >> these women in this league have felt like this has been ignored because massaging it has been an issue. racism has been an issue. they'd been

dealing with this for so long. and now that we have all of this attention they're going to try to change it, or at least they're saying they're trying to change it in the w i'm glad you point that out. this is this did not start this season for so many people who have been dealing and watching all this. i mean, the wnba the women that may be they have been in the forefront and leaders on a number of controversies that a number of social justice it's issues and beyond, you got to give them their credit. they do not keep this. they're ill compartmentalize life with ball j, combine their passion and so many ways. and despite the controversy as though this has been a records setting year for the wnba with ratings and also by the way attendance that highest in 22 years most regular season watch games and 24 years 2 billion video views as across social media. i mean, this this has been good for the game it's been amazing for the game. you know, the league is young, it's 28 years young and

we think we'll look, no one's watching its 28 years young you know, we have to understand this is when it's hitting, it's just do what i mean by that is that with caitlin clark and angel reese, they come into the league and they bring their fan bases and they also bring an expectation and experts petition that we deserve and we want that's this generation and i'm so impressed by how these young ladies handled themselves and what they demand. and so everyone is paying attention. so the rivalry is a good thing, but also it comes with the hecklers and the sycophants and the people who don't necessarily need to be here for the sport, it happens. >> sports. but these ladies are taking the momentum and they're taking it all. it was already building and they are just capitalizing off of it. there was this explosion if you will, when caitlin clark always came into the game because of how they played the college game and now everyone's why >> russian women's basketball. and i think this is great. well, the product has always been great. and so now you can see it in their response. i'm so excited for them it'

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